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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2012, 05:46:24 pm »
they shouldnt make another rdr they should just make an entirly different western game because they couldnt go anywhere with jack.
I think they should make a western set in the days of the early west not when its dieing.

rockstar games should go back and do a pre-qual as i properly so many missed out on red dead revolver and i can't get hold of it for love nor money and it should be remade anyway with the ideas and advanced gameplay engineering we have now, theres so many gaps they could fill that leads up to the red dead redemption story like the life of landon ricketts and marshall johnston and maybe even show nigel west dickens as a young bad ass cowboy.

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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2012, 04:21:59 am »
they shouldnt make another rdr they should just make an entirly different western game because they couldnt go anywhere with jack.
I think they should make a western set in the days of the early west not when its dieing.

rockstar games should go back and do a pre-qual as i properly so many missed out on red dead revolver and i can't get hold of it for love nor money and it should be remade anyway with the ideas and advanced gameplay engineering we have now, theres so many gaps they could fill that leads up to the red dead redemption story like the life of landon ricketts and marshall johnston and maybe even show nigel west dickens as a young bad ass cowboy.


west dickens was never badass, if he is a main character in any other R* game I'll murder myself.
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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2012, 04:23:35 am »
Even be able to do things with hookers


You mean...you would get to do stuff....with prostitutes?

holy shit, this is  visionary

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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2012, 01:00:20 pm »
They should not link it to Red Dead Redemption and I think it just should be set as you being an outlaw in the 1880s. Be the bad guy or good guy storyline.
Pick you know before starting the game, so two different stories with the same character or different characters.



Flowers/hunting and other collectables count as scraps for clothing pieces (possibly guns) & can remove-eq rifle strap and 6-shooter belt or be complete un-armed.
Be able to sit on benches and other objects.
Even be able to do things with hookers
Remove the fame/honor bar it's useless.
Make sure all weapons/clothes can be finished around mid-way through the game not right at the end like all games are.
If you are a bad guy you'd have an option to have 1 or 2 people you can recruit in your 'gang' and similar to being good you recruit two deputy's

I just want to be a bad cunt similar to Colton of GUN. He was not good & not bad? A roll like that wouldn't be too bad and that goes the same for Red from Revolver.

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A. As much as RDR lacks some continuity errors in game play, in what world does plants=Clothes/guns? No, gun-shop owners= guns, and that's what we got.
B. The Fame And Honour bar where only useless if you ignored it, it was there so this game would not be about randomly slaughtering every motherfucker in Blackwater. It gives the player a sense of remorse after murdering a bunch of people (If bandanna isn't equipped), so, y'know, if you find it that pointless you can buy GTA, or even saints row if you want a cheap laugh whilst you're killing pixels.
C. Oh, I guess you want a sandbox game that has no point of continuing after the end of the story.
D. So, these the same NPC's that get on my tits in general? No thanks, I'm good being a one man wolf group.
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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2012, 08:48:32 am »
Only have rebuttals to a couple of these...

A.) No, plants in the real world never can = guns.  However hemp is the strongest natural fiber known to man, and makes very excellent clothing.  Plants can definitely = clothes.

C.)  Not alot of people liked Jack and didn't have alot of desire to keep playing as him.  You can earn the Legend of the West outfit from the very beginning by using the methods to get to Mexico and West Elizabeth early in the game.  However you can't get the Savvy trader outfit until the very end of the game, which annoys me.  I switch outfits constantly throughout the game and would like to have that one in my rotation as well. 
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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2012, 11:57:02 am »
More than a few Wild West legends, such as Wyatt Erp, went to Alaska to experience a different wildness in the West. It could be cool to be set in a cold, lawless, and dangerous land. It poses a lot of problems, and my eyes get tired in Tall Trees with all the white snow... Eh, maybe not...

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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2012, 05:15:52 pm »
I like the variety of the RDR map, but I also wouldn't mind all desert, or all mountains.
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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2012, 08:05:36 pm »
I love how people think a western is a cowboy, an indian, and a frigging cactus, out in the middle of the desert. No. No. And No.

That was just the "American" culture during the Old West (I really despise calling it the "Wild West", sounds too corny).

What makes a western a "western", is that it falls under the following criteria:

1. It is set in the Western US (including Alaska (Those are called Northerns), Canada, Mexico, The Southeastern US, and Australia. And some countries in Europe/Asia during the 1800s-1900s had many outlaw gangs (especially in Italy Spain. Turkey, and the Middle East). Meaning, you do not need a "cowboy", as there are no video games where you play as a cowboy (gunfighters, lawmen, and other citizens).

2. Characters that are in a "grey" zone in terms of morality.

3. A sense of lawlessness, guns, money, drugs, crime, murder, etc. (This is what makes the "Mexico" trilogy, NCFOM, and CoJ: The Cartel (and yes, I do like this game, and anyone that disagrees with me needs to stop basing their gaming decisions on reviews), a western).

4. Law. Law enforcement.

If these criteria are met, a western can be set in any time period. However is is preferabbly 1836-1920. Anytime from 1920-Present Day would make it a Neo-Western (which is still a western).

But yeah, I prefer Mexico as a settng for westerns, as it was (and still is) one of the most violent areas in the world.
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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2012, 08:58:22 am »
Personally I'd like to find out more about Dutch, about how he was driven insanse and basically tore apart their entire gang.

Marston spoke of him as if he was once a great man before we went loopy.

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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2012, 05:55:32 am »
They should not link it to Red Dead Redemption and I think it just should be set as you being an outlaw in the 1880s. Be the bad guy or good guy storyline.
Pick you know before starting the game, so two different stories with the same character or different characters.



Flowers/hunting and other collectables count as scraps for clothing pieces (possibly guns) & can remove-eq rifle strap and 6-shooter belt or be complete un-armed.
Be able to sit on benches and other objects.
Even be able to do things with hookers
Remove the fame/honor bar it's useless.
Make sure all weapons/clothes can be finished around mid-way through the game not right at the end like all games are.
If you are a bad guy you'd have an option to have 1 or 2 people you can recruit in your 'gang' and similar to being good you recruit two deputy's

I just want to be a bad cunt similar to Colton of GUN. He was not good & not bad? A roll like that wouldn't be too bad and that goes the same for Red from Revolver.

Prepare for itemized bring downs.

A. As much as RDR lacks some continuity errors in game play, in what world does plants=Clothes/guns? No, gun-shop owners= guns, and that's what we got.
B. The Fame And Honour bar where only useless if you ignored it, it was there so this game would not be about randomly slaughtering every motherfucker in Blackwater. It gives the player a sense of remorse after murdering a bunch of people (If bandanna isn't equipped), so, y'know, if you find it that pointless you can buy GTA, or even saints row if you want a cheap laugh whilst you're killing pixels.
C. Oh, I guess you want a sandbox game that has no point of continuing after the end of the story.
D. So, these the same NPC's that get on my tits in general? No thanks, I'm good being a one man wolf group.

I didn't say flowers/plants would account for GUNS I was meaning as other certain things you could find similar to how you pick flowers in RDR now. So even mine for gold, or whatever the case could be. Just give a little more things to explore rather then chest in the random places? As for guns, you could find old houses and get I dunno a piece of weapon or not, could be stupid but could be fun? Depends on how you'd want to be? I'd more then likely rather just be able to find weapons as you do in RDR after gang hideouts.

Bandanna or none once you complete the game or even play through the game on low honor or high it doesn't affect anything but prices in areas and sales?
If people feel the honor bar affects them and they want to keep it high to be a saint in-mind to take in-game fair enough and same the other way around. I wear bandanna and have a high bounty in US and honor bar is still good because of it. So I didn't really find it useful. Woah a retard horse you get for low honor that runs better anyway through the grass/dirt/open west?  :o

No, not sandbox game but would rather something more driven then doing some ranching and
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Being bad or good and having 1 or 2 NPC with you in-game wouldn't be that bad it's not like any game that's come out has made them the best side-kicks or members to a gang/crew/etc. Just to have the feel and a tiny bit more gun power would been more fun when doing missions or whatever the fuck.

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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2012, 03:39:53 pm »
i personally would like to see a whole new storyline, no martson etc, go back to the 1800's with a whole new list of characters.

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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2012, 03:52:10 pm »
If you ask me, they should make a type of game that revolves around the movie "The Outlaw: Josey Wales." Oh yeah, they kinda did, if you get my drag. Anyways, I like the Idea of a prequel, with John in the gang, and it ends with John being tooken by the feds back to the wild west, like how the first one begins.

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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2012, 08:47:38 pm »
in the 1800's england was in the victorian times, we had the queen victoria on the throne and jack the ripper running riot murdering folk and electric was not around and it was a time of industrial revolution in a hugh shift changed in the population, so it was not all that dissimular from across the atlantic in america and we was also at war with france.

so it would be a good project to do next somewhere down the line in say a few years maybe it would be good for them to do a different era like the victorian times with a jack the ripper story playing in thebackgound.

and maybe a rockstar game set in medieval times
I don't know, but I think I've gotten my fill of the 1800s English thing with the recent Sherlock Holmes movies.

If we're on a tangent about games Rockstar should do, as far as England goes, I'd be much quicker to hop onboard the idea of a Robin Hood era game. We'd have bows and arrows (which we missed out on from Red Dead because the Indians had guns by this point in the story), and swords and axes and catapults and torches. Horses, castles, farms, hunting, villages. Similar flavor as Red Dead, but with swords.

As for Red Dead sequels (or prequels)... I'd like a game set earlier in the timeline. Maybe see some of the antics of Seth or the snake oil salesman guy. Maybe see the very early days of that gang Marston belonged to in his backstory. Or maybe just go much further back for the sake of a more classic version of Indians (not the ones dressing like regular cowboys and shooting guns, but wearing iconic Indians clothes and using their older weaponry).

But I could get onboard with a sequel too. At first, I thought a prequel was all that made sense. Because Redemption took place at basically the end of the Wild West, as the future encroached on it all. But, now that I think about it, I remember reading an Elmore Leonard book called "The Hot Kid" about a guy who becomes a US Marshall (or something) in Oklahoma during the Great Depression. Alcohol's illegal, everybody's in poverty, and the country is fascinated by the wave of criminals robbing banks and thumbing their noses at the system. Pretty Boy Floyd, John Dillinger types. The main character was basically a cowboy, chasing down bank robbers and making a name for himself with his guns. It's as close as you can get to being a Western in modern times, having a character who is basically an old-school peacemaker type.

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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #53 on: April 19, 2012, 05:14:16 am »
rockstar should do a game set in the medieval times its the only era they ain't done.

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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #54 on: April 19, 2012, 05:57:24 pm »
id like to see it set around the time of the civil war. maybe the main character just left the war because he seen or heard something about the unit he was in that he wanted no part of but now he knows to much so they are after him. so he goes into hiding out west to give him a free roam style life to live. and one by one he has to face his old friends from the war. i would like to see a bigger native american role in it also.

Also i was watching on netflix the other day this documentary series called the conquistadors and i think it would be cool if someone made a game during that time. like rdr graphics set in a jungle setting would be awesome.
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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2012, 08:10:36 am »
I would have to say the next RDR would no doubt be in the Wild West of the US.

I ain't saying Australia is a bad setting, but to me - RDR is just an American Wild West game.

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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2012, 10:31:59 am »
No civil war, medievil or Australia thing. Just make it a hole new game in the early western days and it'd be set to be a good one. I'd still like the choice to customize your outfits and weapons also be good or bad in a story-line that affects certain outcomes and endings. No one wants some knights, outback Jack snake wrangler aussie or civil war crap that would just wreck the only decent western game that's come out. It just turn into that bullshit 'call of juraz series' which is just beyond complete rubbish.
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Re: The Next RDR should be set...
« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2012, 12:22:12 pm »
I like the early 20th century setting, it allows for much greater diversity in terms of weaponry.  The next Red Dead should be bigger and more dense with towns, farms and homesteads.  Geographic diversity is also good, after a while I got tired of endless desert (West Elizabeth helped in that area a little).
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